and mitt romney is the president has a record and he doesn't play politics with foreign policy. and i think that provides a great deal of security to voters. voters also rank the president as ahead of mitt romney on strong leadership. and that strong leadership is highly correlated with the decisive actions he's taken in foreign policy whether it is getting us out of iraq or finding osama bin laden or waiting to get the information before you incorrectly shoot from the hip which is what mitt romney did about libya. >> jennifer: that october surprise won't work. who knows if there is another one. there is a debate coming up tomorrow. 38% of voters say the upcoming debates actually are going to be important in helping their vote, make their vote. 38% according to this new nbc news "wall street journal" poll. have people really -- 38% not made up their minds? >> you know, it is a really interesting question because we have never gone into a debate with voters as polarized as they are today. and with as few undecideds as there are today. it is a really interesting question governor,